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Netmeeeting & SP2
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Lappers
2004-09-10 22:17:52 UTC
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I have also had problems using Netmeeting since I
installed SP2. I am using Norton Internet Security and
have tried turning both NIS and Windows Firewall off but
it makes no difference. Calls take an age to connect and
the incoming video is really slow. Any ideas?
Brian Sullivan MVP
2004-09-10 23:34:43 UTC
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Post by Lappers
I have also had problems using Netmeeting since I
installed SP2. I am using Norton Internet Security and
have tried turning both NIS and Windows Firewall off but
it makes no difference. Calls take an age to connect and
the incoming video is really slow. Any ideas?
How are you attempting to initiate the calls?
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Lappers
2004-09-12 08:06:12 UTC
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Yes
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Post by Lappers
I have also had problems using Netmeeting since I
installed SP2. I am using Norton Internet Security and
have tried turning both NIS and Windows Firewall off
but
Post by Lappers
it makes no difference. Calls take an age to connect
and
Post by Lappers
the incoming video is really slow. Any ideas?
How are you attempting to initiate the calls?
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Brian Sullivan MVP
2004-09-12 13:29:05 UTC
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Yes
???
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How are you attempting to initiate the calls?
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Lappers
2004-09-12 13:56:30 UTC
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By double clicking on the persons name on the ils server
listing.
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Yes
???
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How are you attempting to initiate the calls?
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Brian Sullivan MVP
2004-09-12 14:29:20 UTC
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Post by Lappers
By double clicking on the persons name on the ils server
listing.
Most public ILS servers use tcp 389 as the LDAP port. XP assumes ( and the
default on Win2000 based ILS servers is) tcp 1002 as the LDAP port. A
fallback mechanism when tcp 1002 fails allows XP to also work with ILS
servers that use 389. The failure to access 1002 and the fallback to 389
causes the long delay you experience on call startup.

To avoid the delay you should specifiy the tcp port of the ILS server
explicitly ( by adding ":389" -colon 389 to the server name in your ILS
server list) for those servers where it is appropriate ( this would be
virtually every public ILS server).
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Lappers
2004-09-12 19:22:21 UTC
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Would this also account for the slow video connection
when connected? It used to work OK before upgrading to
SP2.
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Post by Lappers
By double clicking on the persons name on the ils
server
Post by Lappers
listing.
Most public ILS servers use tcp 389 as the LDAP port. XP
assumes ( and the
default on Win2000 based ILS servers is) tcp 1002 as the
LDAP port. A
fallback mechanism when tcp 1002 fails allows XP to also
work with ILS
servers that use 389. The failure to access 1002 and the
fallback to 389
causes the long delay you experience on call startup.
To avoid the delay you should specifiy the tcp port of
the ILS server
explicitly ( by adding ":389" -colon 389 to the server
name in your ILS
server list) for those servers where it is appropriate (
this would be
virtually every public ILS server).
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Brian Sullivan MVP
2004-09-12 19:55:57 UTC
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Post by Lappers
Would this also account for the slow video connection
when connected? It used to work OK before upgrading to
SP2.
No -- once you are connected the ILS is not an issue anymore. I don't know
what your slowness while connected is caused by.
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lappers
2004-09-15 16:53:38 UTC
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This doesn't seem to make any difference. It has only
been a problem since upgrading to service pack 2;
everything was OK before.
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Post by Lappers
Would this also account for the slow video connection
when connected? It used to work OK before upgrading to
SP2.
No -- once you are connected the ILS is not an issue
anymore. I don't know
what your slowness while connected is caused by.
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Brian Sullivan MVP
2004-09-15 17:19:09 UTC
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Post by lappers
This doesn't seem to make any difference. It has only
been a problem since upgrading to service pack 2;
everything was OK before.
There is a new NetMeeting version in SP2- but afaik it should not have the
effect you are experiencing.
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Thomas Bliesener
2004-09-16 21:20:51 UTC
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Post by lappers
This doesn't seem to make any difference. It has only
been a problem since upgrading to service pack 2;
In the German speaking newsgroup on Netmeeting, there are a couple of
similar reports on a significant slowdown of incoming video after
XP-SP2, and two reports on a repair of this effect by deactivation of
QoS.
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lappers
2004-09-26 14:45:47 UTC
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Thaks for that; what is QoS?
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Post by lappers
This doesn't seem to make any difference. It has only
been a problem since upgrading to service pack 2;
In the German speaking newsgroup on Netmeeting, there
are a couple of
similar reports on a significant slowdown of incoming
video after
XP-SP2, and two reports on a repair of this effect by
deactivation of
QoS.
--
FAQ Netmeeting & Messenger: http://www.uni-
essen.de/kitt/faq-nm.htm
Mails bitte nur in die Gruppe. Requests please to the
newsgroup only.
Viele Gruesse, Regards, Thomas Bliesener, MVP,
http://tinyurl.com/rqed
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Brian Sullivan MVP
2004-09-26 15:25:06 UTC
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Post by lappers
Thaks for that; what is QoS?
QoS = Quality of Service

Basically it is a mechanism for "reserving" bandwidth on networks(especially
important for real time audio/video). It really serves no purpose for over
the internet communications though as the internet does not have QoS
capablity.
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lappers
2004-09-26 15:49:10 UTC
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Thanks Brisn; how do you deactivate/disable it?
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Thaks for that; what is QoS?
QoS = Quality of Service
Basically it is a mechanism for "reserving" bandwidth on
networks(especially
important for real time audio/video). It really serves
no purpose for over
the internet communications though as the internet does
not have QoS
capablity.
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Brian Sullivan MVP
2004-09-26 15:58:48 UTC
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Post by lappers
Thanks Brisn; how do you deactivate/disable it?
Open the Control Panel "Network Connections" applet, right click on the
Local Area Network connection ( or whatever is providing your internet
connection), select "Status", then on the "General" tab the "Properties"
button.

In the "General" tab of the pop up about a quarter down is a label "This
connection uses the following items". Deselect the "QoS Packet Scheduler" in
that list, and then select appropriate OKs to exit.
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lappers
2004-09-26 17:25:50 UTC
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Brian

Thanks for that; the problem is now solved cheers.
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Post by lappers
Thanks Brisn; how do you deactivate/disable it?
Open the Control Panel "Network Connections" applet,
right click on the
Local Area Network connection ( or whatever is providing
your internet
connection), select "Status", then on the "General" tab
the "Properties"
button.
In the "General" tab of the pop up about a quarter down
is a label "This
connection uses the following items". Deselect the "QoS
Packet Scheduler" in
that list, and then select appropriate OKs to exit.
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